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gregvp's avatar

Human write clearly. Human write wise words. Human will be completely ignored.

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First of all, good argument. I agree with you on the first 2. The 3rd will probably be very hard to drop because it's the name for the entire movement. I'm not sure what they could change to without having that new new/term just quickly absorb all the meaning (pro and con) associated with the first term. Still, speaking as a man, you're absolutely right that I usually wince when I hear the terms "patriarchy" or "toxic masculinity" (the one exception being if their talking about a *particularly* patriarchal society).

Now, a bit of a tangent I hope you won't mind me discussing. Even though I hate neoliberal identity politics, I feel somewhat sorry for liberal women right now. This is because I think they're trapped in a particularly cruel way. Women are more agreeable than men by nature, from what I've heard from psychology experts, and this also seems intuitively correct to me. Some also say that women are more conformist. I think for liberal women, they look to older respected female voices to lead the way. Hillary Clinton put them on a path that has thus far been disastrous, politically. And other high-profile women have largely echoed Hillary since, across party lines (Nikki Haley had nice things to say about Hillary IIRC). So they're trapped following bad advice, or perhaps even falling into a horribly distorted worldview. But this has happened *because* of their nature, not in spite of it. A nature that in most times and places has served them well. It's hard for me to see how they get out of it, and so I seriously wonder if America will ever have a woman President.

This is shocking to write, because I remember thinking back in 2006 that women Presidents would be the wave of the future. At the time, it seemed certain that Hillary Clinton would one day be President. Now both her *and* Harris have failed. I truly don't think that sexism or misogyny was a major factor in either of these losses... but I can kind of understand why liberal women do.

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